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told or been told sooner that the fbi was investigating a case involving the director of the cia. we're keeping them honest as we do every night not to take sides, you can get that on other cable news channels, but to look for the truth, the facts. here's what we know right now about who knew what and when. according to "wall street journal" the fbi discovered the affair between petraeus and his biographer, paula broadwell, in late summer. we'll have more on how in just a moment. so the fbi reportedly knew in late summer that the head of the cia was having an affair, but it wasn't until months later after election day that president obama found out, and the house and senate intelligence committees didn't find out until friday. congressional leaders from both parties are angry, they say they should have been notified sooner that there were potential national security issues. senate intelligence committee chair dianne feinstein said today she is going to investigate why the fbi didn't tell oversight committees about the investigation. >> a decision was made somewhere not to brief us wh

the name of the fbi agent who helped start the investigation that eventually led to the resignation of the nation's top spy. the name of the agent is frederick w. humphries ii. he's 47 years old. he was the investigator who first learned of a complaint from jill kelley that she received harassing e-mails. the government has taken away for now, the top security clearance of paula broadwell, the former mistress of david petraeus. this is after investigators found substantial classified information on her computer and the glaering question tonight is did broadwell's relationship with david petraeus give her access to these classified documents? "outfront" tonight, cnn national security contributor, fran townsend. she's also a member of the cia external add voizry committee and knowed a lot about what it means to have top clearance. the name of the fbi agent, frederick humphries, who was by the way, involved in foiling a terrorist attack in 1999. very accomplished fbi agent. what do you know about the relationship? >> it's interesting. apparently, i understand from a senior law enforcem

on the fbi investigation that stumbled upon petraeus' affair with his biographer, paula broadwell. two experts from the fbi on why president obama didn't learn of the investigation for six months. let's go "outfront." >>> i'm erin burnett. good evening. "outfront" tonight, a scandal turns more bizarre. new details tonight on the petraeus scandal. the white house, forced to take a stand. not on david petraeus, but on another four-star general, john allen. america's top commander in afghanistan. he was set to become the nato supreme commander, until the president put that nomination on hold today. like petraeus, allen is at the top of the american military. he's a four-star general. one of only four four-star generals in the entire u.s. marine corps. officials are investigating general john allen after finding allegedly inappropriate e-mails between general allen and jill kelley. the same jill kelley who had contacted the fbi about receiving harassing e-mails from petraeus biographer and former mistress, paula broadwell. allen, who once worked for petraeus at the u.s. central command, de

is taken over the generalship of the cia. >> and, suzanne, we don't know how long the fbi was investigating, do we know if the obama administration knew about this before the election? >> no, but wouldn't we all love to know the answer to that. that really is a burning question. just days after the election, something like this comes out. clearly something like this had been going on for a while. well, it actually meant he was having sex with her under the desk, but the fbi thought it might refer to corruption. in other words, doing something under the table. and that's how this investigation started. the fbi then went back and traced all of his e-mails and ascertained that he was having this affair with this woman, and of course that is a total violation of top secret security rules. you are not supposed to compromise yourself in any way where you could be blackmailed, especially the cia director. there is almost nobody in the government who knows as many secrets as he does, and people are routinely fired for putting themselves in this position when they have a top secret security clearanc

broadwell, uncovered during an fbi investigation. the bureau was looking into so-called jealous e-mails purchase reportedly send by broadwell to kelley, a petraeus family friend. tonight, the "washington post" has reported that as president obama rearranges his national security team, it is considering asking senator john kerry to serve on the team and the fbi agent was barred from taking part in the case for allegedly sending shirtless pictures of himself to a woman involved in the case. meanwhile, the ghost writer of broadwell's book, vernon loeb, says he was clueless about the affair between petraeus and broadwell. here with the latest on the scandal that keeps getting bigger and more bizarre, cnn's pentagon correspondent barbara starr and intelligence correspondent, suzanne kelly. welcome back to you both. >> thank you. >> when we talked on friday night, it was all just breaking and it seemed a relatively straightforward scandal but none of us thought it would stay that way, and sure enough, tonight, a really bizarre twist. it's not john kerry possibly becoming defense secreta

of defense. >> the fbi found up to 35,000 pages of documents, some dating back two years during the investigation. according to a senior official close to allen, one message the afghan commander sent warned kelly she had been threatened. the official says allen had received an anonymous message, now believed to be from broadwell. the pentagon was called in because allen is subject to military law. but why did this only come out now in public view? >> we have a large amount of alleged material that went between these individuals, as much as 30,000 pages. it's not clear whether this was viewed as a relatively minor question or whether it was not apparent until the very end that the general was involved. >> allen was to appear thursday for senate hearing to become the military head of nato. now that is on hold. >> we need to be careful not to have this cloud of scandal start to color the image of general allen because the minute that happens, it may be almost too late to sustain his leadership. >> wolf, so everybody is talking about 30,000 pages of documents and e-mails. it sounds

. right now the cia is investigating a tip that she is the other woman. she is the woman named in that fbi tape. petraeus has not admitted an affair directly with her. but he said, yesterday afternoon, i went to the white house and asked the president to be allowed, for personal reasons, to resign from my position as d/cia. after being married for over 37 years, i showed extreme poorly judgment by engaging in an extramarital affair. such behavior is unacceptable, both as a husband and as the leader of an organization such as ours. this afternoon, the president graciously accepted my resignation. author of "the secrets of the fbi," and suzanne kelly. let's start with suzanne kelly. this is a massive blow, really, to everybody in the white house, to general petraeus, to his wife and to the country. the country has lost one of its great military men in scandalous circumstances. >> you know, piers, that's absolutely right. the first shock was he admitted to having an affair. this is someone with a stellar reputation in washington, very well respected. war hero in many ways who was appointed by

from an fbi employee concerned that national security might have been breached as a result of the affair. cantor was told on october 27th. president obama didn't find out about the affair until after election day. congressional leaders from both parties are upset that neither they nor the president were informed until late last week. >> obviously this was a matter involving a potential compromise of security. and the president should have been told about it at the earliest date. >> reporter: a u.s. official said there was no breach of security as a result of the affair. a cantor aide says the congressman called the fbi's leadership to report the information he got on october 31st. but according to "the wall street journal," the fbi's probe had already been under way for months. "the journal" says the fbi's investigation began in may when it started looking into e-mails described as threatening sent to a woman cnn has identified as jill kelley, a family friend of petraeus'. the fbi traced the e-mails back to paula broadwell, petraeus' biographer. and by late summer, "the wal

-- >> the fbi is looking into monticello e-mail. >> thomas jefferson, the randy bugger. >> by the way, heilemann is the national affairs writer for -- >> yes. >> this is going to be a long show. >> by the way -- >> growth industry. >> in the line of booty, "new york daily news." this thing's just getting a little weird. this lady right here gets the fbi to investigate. >> yeah. and what fbi agent does she go to? >> the guy who sent her the shirtless pictures. >> you know who i'm going to go to? i'm going to go first to the guy who sent me shirtless pictures. >> the lewis -- >> this guy sent me a shirtless picture, i'm going to go with him. we get a relationship, i'm sure it's platonic. >> i have no idea, seriously, the connection there, but thank you for -- >> he's classing the place up. >> don't forget she's an identical twin, at some point in this story, i'm sure we'll have a switcharoo. >> okay. >> so she goes to the fbi, and we find out -- threaten her life. threaten her life? no, the e-mails say, i know you were touching general petraeus under the table. >> inappropriately. >> inappropriate

that is dominating washington. the latest on the fbi investigation that led to the sudden resignation of cia director david petraeus on friday. lawmakers are now calling for an inquiry as new details emerge about the entire time line. officials say the investigation began after jill kelley, a 37-year-old volunteer at mcdill air force base in tampa, complained of receiving harassing e-mails. kelley and her husband met petraeus and his wife when he headed the tampa bay central command from 2008 to 2010. now the fbi traced those e-mails to paula broadwell, co-author of the tpetraeus biography that le them to other 0 e-mail that is did indicate a romantic relationship between broadwell and petraeus. this morning "the new york times" report says they were notified of petraeus' affair in the late summer. in the senior law enforcement official said they interviewed petraeus in late october and concluded there was no criminal violation. and on november 6, election day, the fbi informed the director of national intelligence, jim clapper. clapper then told the white house on wednesday. the national security te

we're joined by senate finance committee chair, diane finestein, as new details about the fbi's investigation and key players emerge. >> we received no advanced notice. it was like a lightning bolt. the way i found out, i came back to washington thursday night. friday morning, the staff director told me there were a number of calls from press about this. i called david petraeus. >> some of petraeus' former military aides tell nbc news, they were uncomfortable with biographer paula broadwell's access to the general. >> i thought this was a little bit strange, that he would take someone who's never written a book and allow them such unfettered access and allow them to write what is really the first biography. >>> cliff talks. president obama reaches out to business and labor to rally support for his plan to raise taxes on the rich. are republicans and democrats any closer to making a deal? >> we've had votes in the senate where we've actually gotten rid of tax credits. i think that's a given. and i think that the vast majority of americans agree with that. the question is, how d

stranger by the hour. the newest twist involves the shirtless e-mails of one of the fbi investigators, and within the hour, law enforcement officials have conducted a search of paula broadwell's home in north carolina, which is just step as way from the home of rielle hunter, john edwards' former mistress. i always wait until the last minute. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express by december 22nd for christmas delivery. by december 22nd when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in our teachers... ...so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. by earning a degree from capella more iuniversity, you'll have the knowledge to make an impact in your company and take your career to an even

the fbi. >> the pentagon inspector general is now investigating now general john allen. top american commander in afghanistan. fbi has uncover between 20,000 and 30,000 documents. mostly e-mails sent between allen and this woman, jill kelley. a senior defense official tells msnbc that the e-mails were inappropriate. kelley was the target of paula broad we'll's e-mails. the associated press that broadwell thought of kelley as a romantic rival for petraeus affection. he was supposed to start the process this week to be the next commander of american forces in europe and supreme allied commander of nato, allen will remain commander in afghanistan. . >>> i don't even know where to begin. how does this happen? >> well, i don't know it happens. particularly in the digital age. the idea that people think that if you have thousands of e-mails that they're not going to be picked up and found out it's sort of amazing. what's most disturbing, this is a terrible time from a foreign policy standpoint to have petraeus out. scandals that are taking key players out of afghanistan, syrian discussions

of events. on november 2nd, the fbi concluded after the final interview given by paula broadwell that there was no basis for criminal charges. officials tell nbc news that national intelligence director james clapper was told about the investigation the following week, on election day. clapper informed the white house the next day. officials say it was not until thursday, november 8th, however, that president obama was first notified and met with petraeus, who then offered to resign. the president accepted that resignation on friday, the same day that leaders of the house and senate committees first learned of the affair. diane finestein joins me now. congressman, why did you and your colleague on the house side not know about this for all of these months? >> because a decision was made somewhere not to brief us, which is atypical. generally, what we call the four corners, the chair and rankings of both committees are briefed on operationally sensitive matters. this is certainly an operationally sensitive matter. but we weren't briefed. i don't know who made that decision. and i

's -- there's value in that. we begin with breaking news and what the fbi was doing last night at paula broadwell's home. she is the woman who had the affair with general petraeus. details on that in a moment. also tonight, keeping them honest on the new twist and turns in the petraeus sex scandal. his affair with broadwell led him to resigning as cia director. you know that already. now another four star general, john allen, is connected to the scandal. we will also look at who's who in this growing scandal. we will map out the key players and connect some of the dots. first, the big question tonight is who authorized the investigation which led to petraeus' stepping down and why? we know his extramarital affair was discovered when this woman, jill kelley, complained about anonymous and what might be considered mildly harassing e-mails. new tonight, a source tells cnn that kelley first mentioned the e-mails in a casual conversation with an fbi agent in may whom she knew. a casual conversation. the source tells us the fbi agent said, let me check it out. the fbi has been on the case sin

says the fbi uncovered between 20 and 30,000 pages of potentially between allen and jill kelly. the woman who triggered the petraeus probe after getting threatening e-mails from his mistress, paula broadwell. >> get this. "the wall street journal" reports the fbi agent who launched the petraeus investigation was removed from the case after it was discovered he sent a shirtless picture of himself to jill kelly. the agent who knew kelly sent the pictures before the investigation began. he was later removed from the investigation because supervisors were concerned the agent may have become obsessed with the case. >> and there's more. a team of fbi agents searching paula broadwell's home yesterday. eight to ten agents brought cardboard boxes and searched both levels of the house. the fbi confirmed agents were there but wouldn't say what they were looking for. >> obviously, a lot going on here. we have two reports. chris lawrence of the pentagon and brianna keeler in our washington bureau. let's start with chris. chris, we're talking about two high-level government officials in a sc

. there are new details, and new questions this morning, about an fbi investigation that led to his departure. the fbi uncovered evidence of an affair between petraeus and his biographer paula broadwell, after she allegedly sent harassing e-mails to another woman she jealously thought was too close to petraeus. new york congressman peter king says there are far more questions than answers. >> this seems to have been going on for several months. yet now it appears that they're saying that the fbi didn't realize until election day that general petraeus was involved. it just doesn't add up. and you've got this type of investigation, the fbi investigating e-mails, the e-mails leading to the cia director, and it's taking four months to find out that the cia director was involved. >> cnn's barbara starr is following this developing story, she's live at the pentagon for us. good morning. tell us, what is the status of the investigation right now? >> well, good morning, alina. "the new york times" is now reporting this morning that the investigation actually began some months ago. but, again, the que

of the republican party because there is no doubt everybody thinks this is the key state. the fbi is finally on the ground in tunisia thanks to two republican united states senators. president obama didn't make it happen. it was republican senators saxby chandlis. tonight the fbi is finally in tunisia to question in person the man caught on video during the attack. how can two republican senators get done in two days what the president of the united states could not get done in weeks? senator lindsey graham joins us. good evening, sir. >> good evening. >> greta: what what is the explanation? i would think with all due respect to the united states senate that in you are the president of the united states you have more muscle than you do if you are a member of the u.s. senate and the fbi has been trying to talk to this man in tunisia. tunisia has said no and then you and senator chandliss got into it two nights ago and voila, you could talk to him. >> i wrote a letter three days ago to the ambassador, u.s. ambassador, tunisia ambassador to the united states saying this is a defining moment in

the david petraeus scandal and the fbi's investigation. we're covering all the angles of his first news conference since the election. and israel retaliates for rocket attacks with deadly strikes and extremist targets. now hamas is warning that the gates of hell have been opened. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> eight days after his re-election, president obama faced reporters in the midst of an unfolding scandal and with a potential economic crisis holding over his head. but he only got riled up when he responded to republican criticism of his united nations ambassador susan rice. more on that coming up. standby. but first, the president's careful responses about the investigation of this former cia chief david petraeus and on negotiations to avoid what's called the fiscal cliff. our white house correspondent jessica yellin was over at the east strip of the white house. you had a chance to speak to the president and ask him about that looming fiscal cliff. >> reporter: hi, wolf. that's right, i did. i asked the president why anyone should believe that he won't cave

. but there is some things that are absolutely stunning, that this happened on 9/11, and the fbi at some point was sent in to investigate. and then on october 26, 6 weeks later, foreign policy magazine went to the consulate, went to the cia annex. they found a draft of two letters. and letters that they have no idea thisf they were ever, ever sent anywhere. but a draft of two letters that the fbi never picked up when they were there. and two draft, talk about this fact that that day, they saw some member of the bolivian police force across the street in the upstairs, taking pictures inside the compound and they were worried and concerned. why that evidence was not seized by the fbi, i don't know. another thing that happened, david ignatius of the washington post, met with the cia. the cia gave them a timeline as to what happened. this is what is new for me. number 1, it appears that the last two who were killed were not killed until about 5:00 hirt in the morning, which fwaifs another hour for the -- which gives another hour for the united states to take military action. but secondly, let me r

from his post on friday. now, the fbi says it knew about the relationship months ago but didn't tell congress or the white house until last week. >> good morning. i'm joe scarborough. thanks for being up this morning, watching on msnbc or listening on xm radio. shoot us an e-mail at way too early. and let us know why you're awake right now. or you can do what fbi director robert mueller does, and text the word awake, followed by your response to 622639. and we're going to read the best responses later in the show. the next 30 minutes will be your cram session for this monday, november 12th. there's a lot going on today, including positive science of bipartisanship. >>> and mitt romney drowns his sorrows in the bottom of a bottle of milk. let's get to the news here at 30 rock in new york city. >>> we begin with general david petraeus and his sudden and unexpected resignation as director of the central intelligence agency on friday, citing an extramarital affair. kristen welker reports. >> reporter: according to a senior federal official and close friend of david petraeus, 37-year-old

it was not a criminal matter, and the fbi investigation that turned up evidence of this affair turned up no evidence of breaching classified information, then why did the affair itself get reported to the director of national intelligence and then the security staff at the white house and ultimately the president? this was private misbehavior that was a breach of personnel rules, but not the law. is the fbi the armed wing of the ci acres human resources department? why did the fbi report the affair to anyone. there was no classified information breached here. no reported breach of david petraeus's systems. any e-mail was not his cia e-mail. it was not like the former director who got busted taking home classified information on his home laptop. so this was not a national security matter. and it was not a criminal matter. so why was this brought up to the director of national intelligence by the fbi. we do not know. what we do know is once james clapper, head of the national intelligence, found out about the affair on election day, he urged david petraeus to resign. the following day, wednesday, mr.

of the counterintelligence agency, the cia, fbi, state department, they were there and john mccain was at that hearing. >> so you feel any criticism of him is unfair. people have been picking on him for this, sounds like you're depending him. >> john said he had a scheduling conflict and i'll take him at his word. >> you were a former ambassador yourself. rand paul was on the show last night and he felt that the person in charge of embassy security at the stapt department must be fired in regards to what happened in benghazi. do you agree? you've been an ambassador, you've dealt with this on the ground. >> i have and i think we have to look at what the state department's response has been in terms of more security. i think drawing a conclusion right now is getting ahead of the curve. we have got more to learn, but we're going to ask all the tough questions. we're going to get the real answers and then make the recommendations as to how to go forward because we don't want this to happen again. >> thanks so much. and still "outfront", attorney general eric holder explains why he knew about the petraeus sex sca

learned the woman who first contacted the fbi about threatening e mails from the general's biographer is a close petraeus family friend. kristen welker has more on when it be cam pcame public. >> reporter: according to a close friend of david petraeus, jill kelly come planned to fbi agents about being harassed by paula broadwell, petraeus' biographer. petraeus' downfall started when kelly complained to the fbi that she was receiving e-mails from broadwell. multiple officials tell nbc news the e-mails led to the discovery of others between general petraeus and broadwell and were indicative of an extramarital affair. >> my first reaction was disbelief. >> petraeus' former spokesperson and served with him in iraq and spoke tine petraeus twice this weekend and said his former boss is remorseful. >> in his word he screwed up. >> reporter: senior law enforcement official told nbc news that fbi officials interviewed petraeus. today members of congress are asking why the fbi did not inform them or the president sooner. >> this is something that could have had an effect on national security. i

details about how fbi investigators stumbled on his affair and is the timing of his resignation add up? plus, who is paula broadwell? the woman at the center of the scandal? tonight, how she became so close with petraeus along with the warning signs that something may have been wrong. and an "outfront" investigation into complaints the red cross is not doing enough to help victims of sandy. are donations getting to the people who need them? let's go "outfront." good evening, everyone. tonight, a rescisky affair. there are new questions about the affair that led cia director david petraeus to resign and when did he pose a national security risk. here's what we can tell you now. the affair came to light during an fbi investigation of so-called jealousy e-mail sent by paula broadwell to a woman in tampa named jill kelley. an official confirms to cnn -- to stop sending harassing e-mails to kelley, who along with her husband has known petraeus and their family for more than five years. that couple met the four star general when he was stationed at medil air force base in tampa. a descriptio

, washington is none too happy about being left out of the loop as the fbi investigates the general petraeus sex scandal. >> it's rather shocking to find out candidly that we weren't briefed. >> it would have been nice to know before we saw it on tv. >> the president was certainly surprised when he was informed about the situation regarding general petraeus on thursday. >> meanwhile, the top general in afghanistan allegedly caught red-handed exchanging flirtatious e-mails of his own with jill kelley. plus the debut of my new cnn colleague, the culinary superstar who will dine on anything, anthony bourdain is here. joining me is barbara starr and intelligence correspondent, suzanne kelly. welcome back to you both. every night i say right off the top, can any of us get our heads round this and how much more ridiculous can it get, and lo and behold, it gets more ridiculous. barbara starr, let's try and get to what we believe to be the facts behind all the kind of lurid, titillating headlines. a second general today, petraeus' successor in afghanistan, general john allen, a marine corps four sta

there is new information in that widening scandal about the fbi probe and the two women in the center of it all, tampa socialite jill kelley and paula broadwell. some ask why did the fbi wait to notify them about the investigation and why the director of national intelligence was not informed until election night. given that the investigation had been under way for months. now the white house was squiz quizzed yesterday on whether the president is satisfied with that time line. first at a news conference in australia where secretaries panetta and clinton are holding bilateral meetings, they should hold opinion until the facts are known about general allen, the latest -- >> no one should leap to any conclusions. no one should leap to any conclusions here. general allen is doing an excellent job. he certainly has my continued confidence to lead our forces and to continue the fight. but his nomination has been put on hold. as a prudent measure until we determine what the facts are. >> and though he praised allen, panetta said he felt it was important to refer the matter to the pentagon's inpeck to

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, you would be wrong. yes, there is word this morning of a shirtless fbi agent. before we get into that, let's talk about the serious implications of the sordid scandal. federal investigators search broadwell's home last night and carried out boxes and boxes of stuff, including a computer. tom fuentes is former fbi assistant director. morning, tom. >> morning, carol. >> as you watch all of this unfold, i want to get your thoughts on it. >> it appears that the fbi has received new information that there may be classified material or something either in documents or on her computers at the residen residence. she gave permission, so it was a consensual search. they went ahead and conducted that search last night and remo removed some material, which will be examined at the office in more detail. if i could add, if it had been really serious usually the fbi, if they were trying to be extra cautious, would go ahead and get a warrant even if permission is given for a consensual search. it really -- the fact that it was consensual, we don't know what exactly information they received to prompt

threatening you. we don't know what happened there. that may have been what caused the fbi to be contacted by jill kelley. i'm purely speculating there. but that's where the fbi became involved and interested in the e-mail exchanges between jill kelley and general john allen. in his opinion, innocuous entirely, but that seems to be the spark that dragged him into this particular investigation. again, this senior official saying, no sexual relationship between these two people at all. >> all right. nick payton walsh for us, obviously this is having effects around the world, getting information, trickles of information pouring in from around the world. nick, appreciate your reporting, thank you. >>> let's go down to the pentagon for more on general allen's communication with jill kelley. barbara starr is there. we're hearing about tens of thousands of documents handed over to investigators, just how much contact really did kelley have with the top commander in afghanistan because the numbers sound just unbelievable, 10,000 documents. >> don't they? it sounds staggering. it might actually be

to the fbi about threatening e-mails inadvertently exposed the affair between general petraeus and paula broadwell. meantime a team of fbi agents searched broadwell's home in charlotte, north carolina, overnight, and spent nearly five hours there wrapping up just after 1:00 in the morning. "wall street journal" is reporting that the fbi agent who launched the petraeus investigation himself is under investigation. in part because he sent shirtless pictures of himself to jill kelley. jill kelley, the woman who kicked off all of this investigation, by complaining about the e-mails that she was getting from the petraeus mistress. so the agent, who knew kelley, allegedly sent those pictures before any investigation began, but as you can see, the story is getting much more complicated. we've got team coverage of the breaking news this morning. chris lawrence is at the pentagon. chris, i don't even know where to begin because there's so much to talk about. let's start with general allen. what's the implications of this -- of him being brought in to petraeus scandal and what has he said about it

the president did. he found out from an fbi employee concerned that national security may have been breached as a result of the affair. president barack obama didn't find out about the affair until after election day. they are upset that neither they nor the president were informed until late last week. the president should have been told about it and he said there was no breach of security as a result of the affair the congressman called the fbi is leadership to report the information he got on october the 31st but the fbi's probe had already been underway for months the journal says that the investigation began in may when email described a threatening woman that jill kellie a family friend of david's. by late summer the wall street journal reports that the bureau had led to broad well to try as, that's when the journal says top law- enforcement officials informed eric holder of the situation. once the white house when some staffer knows when sperry's people find out about something i think it's almost instant you see this all the time. if former fbi assistant director says under its prot

have a lot of confidence generally in the fbi and they have a difficult job. and so, i'm going to wait and see -- >> well the white house says there are protocols that is the word they use when notifying the white house about criminal investigations. turns out there is a 2007 memo by the ten attorney general about sush investigatich invest. now it goes onto say it is critically important to have free quent and expeditious communications about issues. yet the white house said the president didn't know about the affair until after the election. fran, you have been talking to your sources. what have you learned? >> what is interesting, what we understand is that paula broadwell had consented to this search of her home. but they agreed to get a search warrant and went ahead and executed that. we understand from law enforcement officials that they are reviewing those documents they say that the classified material is not substantial that they have seen and two, while it may be a technical violation it is not egregious. the law enforcement official told me that they don't expect that there w

dedicated army colonel quit after announcing he had an extramarital affair. it's an fbi affair that's sounding alarms. the fbi was investigating some suspicious e-mails and found some e-mails between paula broadwell and david petraeus. broadwell is the woman who wrote his biography. the fbi looks to see whether his communications had been compromised, and they said they had not been. now, petraeus was interviewed by the fbi, but it's not clear if broadwell has been questioned and if she will be. a u.s. official said petraeus was never a target of an investigation and that a tip about an affair led to that probe. now, general petraeus was scheduled to testify next week about the attack on the u.s. consulate in libya. now what happens now that he's gone? suzanne kelly is in washington with that part of this big story. >> susan, as washington reels from the announcement not only that david petraeus is stepping down from the post, but also from the admission he was having an extramarital affair, a u.s. official has said the counter intelligence unit was investigating a tip that he was h

to the fbi for an investigation. the shooting death of a 16 year-old girl on the south side is still a mystery with no suspects in custody. she died around 1030. she said that she didn't want to be out late into left in a car with friends. when you think about going home from work and taylor and i will do this and i will do this with taylor, and i will not be able to do that anymore. a witness to the shooting said the gunman was among a group of people in black cuddy's, they shot at the car as it was going over a speed bump, she was a sophomore at morgan parcae school. jordan broke a leg and he was the vice president and the rogers park chamber of commerce and a husband ofand father of three friends cannot believe it. >> he was the best friend that many of us ever had. and he was a great asset to our community. police are looking for a dark blue volkswagen bug with illinois plates. first it was the director of the cia admitting to an affair and now the web is growing. it appears a lot of people would just like donald trump to go away. wooohooo....hahaahahaha! oh...there you go. wo

follow the facts. we do not share outside the justice department, outside the fbi the facts of ongoing investigations. we made the determination as we were going through the matter that there was not a threat to national security. >> let's jump right in and bring in our friday morning political power panel. we have jackie kucinich political reporter for "usa today", democratic strategist blake zeb and msnbc contributor robert trainum. great to have you all here. we just heard from congressman king earlier today saying the general was asked right off the top whether the affair had an impact on his testimony. he said no. they moved on. but are all indications then that the affair is now a side note and lawmakers are truly focused on what took place in benghazi and the intelligence they have now? >> this very minute, yeah. i think that's the case. will that remain the focus? i don't know. because there's a lot of questions still out there about petraeus and his relationship with his biographer as well as joe kelly in tampa. and general allen. i mean, there are a lot of moving parts here.

and departments that have their hands in the libya affair, cia, dod, state, white house, fbi, i think it's clear that the cia's jurisdiction in a lot of what happened was probably minimal. that makes petraeus's downfall all the more sad, because i think of everyone the cia and david petraeus probably had the cleanest hands in all of this. we have to see. we obviously have plenty more questions going forward. >> to your point, s.e., it shows his resignation was over the extra-marital affair. >> yeah. >> i want to take a step back here on this whole issue. i mean, i think -- let me start by saying that i think the questions about the security at the consulate in benghazi are legitimate questions that deserve investigation. the thing that republicans have really glomed onto is what susan rice said on face the nation. i want to play her comments so we can put that in context. >> i understand you have been saying that you think it was sfont n spontaneous. are we not on the same page here? >> let me tell you what we understand to the assessment at present. first of all, as you discussed with the presi

answers. why didn't the fbi inform them of the investigation? and what does this mean for this week's senate hearing on the tedly attack in libya? barbara starr is at the pentagon. barbara, general petraeus was to be a primary witness in that closed door hearing. what now? >> well, by all accounts he will not appear at this week's hearing. the man who will is mike morrell, his deputy and ci airks, now essentially the acting director of the agency. mr. morrell, a highly respected intelligence professional, has been with the agency for many, many years. would know all the same information that david petraeus knows. but the question on the table, carol, is whether that's going to be politically enough for congress. are they so irritated about this entire matter that they will subpoena petraeus in the weeks ahead and compel him to come testify about what he knows about the benghazi attacks? >> barbara starr reporting live for us at the pentagon this morning. this affair is baffling on so many levels. how could a man with such a pristine reputation show such awful judgment? and how could

fbi investigation which revealed the affair between general petraeus and his biographer paula broadwell. the newest twist, nbc confirming that broadwell e-mailed general allen first from the handle kelley patrol warning him about jill kelley painting her negatively. "the wall street journal" reporting that she tried to stop the fbi investigation that she started. this is news that nbc has not yet confirmed, however, we have been able to confirm that kelley called police over the weekend claiming to be an honorary consul-general and citing diplomatic protection in an effort to get the media including nbc off of her property. >> i'm an honorary consul-general so i have inviolability so i should -- they should not be able to cross my property. i don't know if you want to get diplomatic protection involved, as well. >> video taken by nbc shows diplomatic plates on her car. south korean authorities say she is an honorary consul and the state department says it has no connection to kelley. >> i can assure you that she does not work for the state department and has no formal affiliat

to testify tomorrow. are you concerned over the way the fbi handled the situation so far? specifically when you look at this? do you think the president should have been told about the investigation earlier? >> well, i'm on homeland security and my first priority is to ensure the national security of this nation but as well i want to not have us forget that we lost four valiant americans and we must continue to mourn them. it must be a sad time for their family. but i believe in process. and i do believe there is a time when the president of the united states should be notified. however, the fbi proceeds in investigations all the times. we should have some standards as to whether or not the fbi was in order in looking at what i consider may have been private matters. if it had to do with national security or they thought a crime was in play and they had the right to do so, i don't think we have the necessary standards. it looks like we don't have a test or at least it seems that we as congresspersons are concerned, when is the test when the president should be notified? the key question tod

department, outside the fbi, the facts of ongoing investigations. we made the determination as we were going through the matter, that there was not a threat to national security. had we made the determination that a threat to national security existed, we would, of course, made that known to the president and also to the appropriate members on the hill. >> while questions remain about the fbi investigation, larger concerns loom about security and privacy. we will discuss them when chris hayes joins the panel just ahead. kathleen and susan are encouraging customers to shop local. they created ladies night in burbank, california, to boost sales staying open late. support your local retailers on november 24th for the third annual small business saturday. for more watch "your business" this sunday morning at 7:30 on msnbc. i'm only in my 60's... i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it onl

. >> reporter: fire fighters rescued two dogs, and one had to be ressusitated. th in a garbage can. >>> the fbi began the investigation after a biography sent harassing e-mails to another one. that is jillko kelly. seen here in 2010 with her husband and david and holly pat patreus. >> mr. broadwell sent -mail to her. she was frightened, she went to the fbi. i can't believe it. >> the frightened woman, jill kelly, served as an unpaid quote liaison tozv mcdill in tamp a w and our family, have been friends with the general and his family for over five years, we respect his and his family's privacy, and want the same for us and our children.ç >>> president obama observed veterans day at arlington national cemetery. he laid a wreath at the tomb of the unknown. he spoke at a ceremony.ç in 1954, congress changed the name to veteran's day to honor all u.s. military personnel. >>> nearly 2000 gathered to mark veterans' day. the veteransp memorial was officially unveiled today. many of the veterans are struggling on bay area streets. a homeless advocate said the need is great. the shelter won't÷ú b

the fbi, which traced those e-mails back to the computer of paula broadwell, where they discovered the evidence of broadwell's affair with petraeus. broadwell, seen tonight at her brother's home in washington, sipping wine and having dinner, admitted her affair with petraeus but has not commented on her e-mails she allegedly sent to the other woman, jill kelly. there is more, abc news learned that general allen received an anonymous e-mail traced to broadwell, claiming jill kelly was a seductress. a further look by the fbi into kelly's e-mails revealed hundreds between kelly and allen. 20,000 to 30,000 pages of communication in all. secretary of defense leon panetta put general allen's promotion to nato supreme commander on hold and ordered a full investigation of the allen/kelly relationship. >> today, the secretary directed the matter be referred to the inspector general of the department of defense for investigation. >> reporter: jill kelly spent the day at her home in tampa not answering questions. in the background, a television could be seen with news coverage of the payton p

.o.d., that team was decided not to send the team to coordinate on the ground response to help facilitate the f.b.i. interest in benghazi. you remember it took 24 days the f.b.i. team sent to gain access to compound if benghaz benghazi. we understand that secretary clinton did call to the f.b.i. on the night of the attack and ask that agents be sent. but at that point, the counterterrorism officials are baffled in the wake of the decision on that night and days afterwards by the administration not calling together this very senior counter terrorism security group, bret? >> bret: again, they were not called upon. they were not activated and they would have been in a situation like this. >> this is a group, not just the csg but the fest team, after the embassies were attacked in africa in 1998 and the u.s. cole was attacked, the team is deployed usually. they weren't deployed and the counterterrorism security group was not put in place. there is a degree of frustration as to why the top levels of the administration were not willing to call the terror group together. >> bret: okay. jennifer griffin wi

of a black male scheme, which provoked an fbi investigation, which makes him the perfect analyst for the petraeus affair. and john mccain and his bff lindsay graham want to keep scott brown in the senate so badly this they are willing to said anything, tell any lie about unn ambassador susan rice. that's coming up. [ female announcer ] today, jason is here to volunteer to help those in need. when a twinge of back pain surprises him. morning starts in high spirits, but there's a growing pain in his lower back. as lines grow longer, his pain continues to linger. but after a long day of helping others, he gets some helpful advice. just two aleve have the strength to keep back pain away all day. today, jason chose aleve. just two pills for all day pain relief. try aleve d for strong, all day long sinus and headache relief. [ female announcer ] charmin ultra soft is so soft you'll have to remind your family they can use less. it's made with extra cushions that are soft and more absorbent. plus you can use four times less. charmin ultra soft. campbell's has 24 new soups that will make

buy grafr, paula broadweliograp. kelley is shown with petraeus and their spouses. from there the fbi's investigation uncovered sexually explicit e-mails between broadwell and petraeus. they set up e-mails with fake names. when the fbi questioned petraeus and broadwell, both came clean about the relationship in october. we're told that the president didn't learn about the investigation until last thursday. attorney general eric holder and two house republicans including eric cantor knew weeks before, perhaps more curious, how could the cia, the agency that knows all, not have known about this? let's go to the table. i actually think that the biggest questions are for the fbi. they did not inform the senate intelligence committee, who is supposed to be informed of any fbi investigations that potentially involve national security. they were not informed until friday basically right before all of us found out. so i kind of think the biggest questions here are for the fbi and their handling of the investigation, but really the question on everybody's mind is g mail, really? g mail, head o

the f.b.i. could have access. day after tunisian officials met at the state department. >> bret: right. the question is if a south carolina senator was obviously involved in defense issues can pressure the tunisias why couldn't the white house? >> human rights group say the syrian rebels may have committed a war crime in the apparent execution of the group of captured seasonals. video shows a group of gunman, soldiers on the ground. 35 seconds of gunfire in this video. killing took place thursday supposedly in northern syria. iranians marked the 33rd verse of the says sure of embassy in tehran with anti-american demonstrations. in 197 # >>> the militant storm that embassy and held 52 americans hostage for 444 days. they chanted death to america and burned the u.s. and israeli flags. still ahead, what we're hearing from coal country and the huge stakes in the election. first election fraud. and the tradition in one ohio community. but they say it will be differentbe this year. or that printing in color had to cost a fortune. nobody said an all-in-one had to be bulky. or that you had to

was traced back to this woman, paula broadwell. she's admitted to an affair with dvp dp. last night fbi agents searched paula broadwell's home, the home she shares with her family. she had given them permission to go into the home. they took out boxes and apparently photo es. joining me now is jim frederick, editor at "time" magazine. i heard people joke about this and all the salacious titles. but at the heart of this are some serious and legitimate conce concerns. the president not making any huge pronouncements, but starting with general allen here, the e-mails were exchanged over a two-year span. his confirmation is being held up. that's a big deal. >> it's a huge deal. the story is changing by the hour. every hour there are new allegations as pertains to general allen. 20 to 30,000 pages worth of documents. first 30,000 e-mails. you think that's not the case because it would be mathematically impossible. but how much time is he spending as the commander of the war in afghanistan e-mailing this woman. that's one of the central issues to sort out is how distracted is this general fro

't compromise classified data. >>> we now know more tonight about why the fbi got so involved in the scandal that brought down david petraeus. his former mistress paula broadway is accused -- broadel with a swell accused of sending -- broadwell is accused of sending cyber ep mails to a friend. in this case, the bureau found e-mails that showed they knew the travel schedule. that was enough to keep the fbi involved updating director david mueller and attorney generaleribbing holder. >> president obama is in thailand mark the first foreign hip since winning a second trip in the white house. he went to bangkok to meet the 8-year-old king and after walking with the prime ministerof thailand he attend a joint press conference in the -- and addressed the conflict of israel and gaza. he warned ground invasion would increase the death toll. >> there's no country on earth that would tolerate missiles raining down on its citizens from outside the borders. so, we are fully supportive of israel's right to defend itself from missiles landing on people's homes and workplaces and potentially killing civili

, as toure was saying, the questions seem to resolve around should the fbi have told the president, have told members of the senate intelligence committee specifically before the election? the question for you, governor, if we had known before the election, would it have made any different? not like the president having this affair. you know, it's a scandal but not the president's scandal. would it have mattered in the election? >> i don't think it would have mattered in the election. this is a little bit of insider baseball but if the republicans thought there was an advantage to getting this out, eric cantor one of their leaders knew about it and could have justifiably got it out. the thrust has to be the fbi. the fbi is a disaster in this investigation, in so many different fronts, and ought to be investigated from the very first decision to go after the second woman's e-mails. i mean, what was it in the first -- in the e-mails to kelley that prompted them to go after the other e-mails? >> should they have told congress? >> congressional leaders? probably so. should eric cantor have told r

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